He kōrerorero ki a Holly

Kei te hiahia koe ki te whakamōrahi i te kaha o tō kaupapa panuku? Hono mai ki a mātou i a mātou e noho ana me te Kaiwhakahaere Kaupapa a Holly, e tiritiri ana he mana nui tōna papamuri hoahoa ina tae mai ki te whakawhitiwhiti i te āputa i waenga i ngā tūmanako kiritaki me te kitenga auaha.

He aha koe i uru ai ki te Whakahaere Kaupapa?

Kia tino pono, i taka ahau ki roto. I trained as a Designer at Massey University in Wellington and while developing my honours project, Connect The Spots, I discovered I actually wanted to become a Strategist. I a au e uru ana ki te kaupapa, ka kitea e au he hiahia ki te whakamahi i te whakaaro nui ki te tātari i ngā pono tangata me te whakawhanake i tētahi mahere whakaeke whānui. He rite tonu ki te Whakahaeretanga Kaupapa, he rite ki te panga jigsaw, ā, he tino whai hua te kite i ngā wāhanga e taka ana ki tōna wāhi. 

I te hiahia ki te hoatu rautaki, ka toro atu ahau ki Strategy Creative, i te mea koinei tētahi o ngā umanga tino pai i te whenua.

I muri i ētahi kōrerorero, ka kī a Sophie [Kaiwhakahaere Kiritaki], "Kāore ā mātou tūranga Rautaki i tēnei wā engari ka whakaarohia e koe he tūranga Whakahaere Kaupapa?". I tangohia e au te wā, a, kore rawa ahau e titiro whakamuri!

He aha tāu e tino pai ai ki te mahi i Strategy?

Ki taku whakaaro ko to mātau tīma te Whakaminenga. He wā ā-marama tēnei mō tātou katoa ki te huihui, ki te whakaaro ki ā mātou toa me ngā hinganga, me te whai mahi hononga tīma. I te nuinga o te wā he pēhanga tiketike, he tere hoki tā mātou mahi, nā reira kāore mātou e kite i ngā mahi kāore mātou i te uru hāngai. He wā tino pai ngā huihuinga ki te kite i ngā mea kua tutuki i te tīma, me te tiritiri i ētahi aroha.

He aha te āhua o tō rā ki ia rā?

He pōturi tōku rā ki te kōrero iti rawa. He nui tonu ā mātou kiritaki rerekē i Rautaki, arā, he rerekē taku kōpaki mahi hohe mai i ia wiki ki ia wiki. I te nuinga o te wā e mahi ana ahau me ngā kiritaki 10 ki te 25 i te wā kotahi, nā reira he tino kī.

He pēhea tō papamuri hoahoa i āwhina ai i tō tūranga ināianei hei Kaiwhakahaere Kaupapa?

Ki tōku whakaaro, ko te whai papamuri hoahoa hei Kaiwhakahaere Kaupapa he āhua rite ki te whai mana nui. Māna ahau e mōhio hōhonu ki te āhua o te mahi "tino pai i roto i te akomanga", tae atu ki te mōhiotanga ki ngā kupu me ngā kupu katoa. I te nuinga o te wā, ka taea e au te whakawhitiwhiti kōrero me te tuku urupare i tētahi huarahi e rerekē ana ki ētahi atu Kaiwhakahaere Kaupapa.

Ka āwhina hoki tēnei māramatanga ahurei i ahau ki te whakawhitiwhiti i te uara o te mahi auaha ki tētahi kiritaki, e āwhina ana ki te arawhiti i te āputa i waenga i ngā tūmanako a te kiritaki me te kitenga auaha.

He aha tō kaupapa tino uaua, engari whai hua?

He ruarua e puta mai ana ki te hinengaro, engari ko taku tino pai i tēnei wā ko te Kaupapa Ratonga Mutu.

The Stop Services have a vision of 'A community free from sexual harm' - He Hapori Wātea Taitōkai.  Ka whakamanatia e rātou ngā pakeke, ngā taitamariki me ngā tamariki e pā ana ki te whanonga tōkai kino mā te whakarato i ngā pūkenga ki te whakarite i ngā whanaungatanga pai. 

Ahakoa kei te angitu a Stop, he iti noa iho te tautoko e wātea ana hei āwhina i ngā pakeke i ngā tūnga kawenga (hei tauira. Ngā kaitohutohu kura, ngā kaitiaki hepara, ngā mātua me ngā kaitiaki, ērā atu mea). E hiahia ana a Stop ki te āwhina i ēnei pakeke ki te uru wawe me te whakatere i te whanonga o te taitamariki ina āwangawanga, kia kore ai e piki ake, kia tutuki ai ngā paearu mō te āwhina a STOP. Kei te mahi tahi mātou me Stop ki te āwhina ki te whakarato i tēnei tautoko mā tētahi utauta mātauranga matihiko. 

He uaua, e mārama ana, e ai ki te kaupapa — ka tino tūtaki ētahi o ngā ihirangi — engari i te mea he tino wai te kaupapa. Kāore anō mātou kia mōhio katoa ki tā mātou e waihanga ana. Ko te tikanga o tēnei me tino tere ahau ki taku mahi. He nui ngā mōhiotanga e puta mai ana i ngā uauatanga ina tae mai ki te whakarite tōmua. Ko tētahi wāhanga nui o tēnei mahi ko te whakakore i ngā mōrea me te whakarite me pēhea e taea ai e mātou te whakaiti i aua mōrea, mēnā ka puta.

Heoi anō, kua tino whai hua kē te kite i te kaupapa e ora ana nā te mea ka tino rerekē te oranga o te rangatahi. Ki taku whakaaro he tino kaha te āwhina ki te whakarato i ngā AIPOR ki ngā utauta hei whakangāwari i ngā kōrerorero uaua ki ngā taiohi/taiohi, e āhei ai rātou ki te whakaaro nui ake mō ngā āhuatanga e whakaurua ana e rātou.

Kōrero mai mō tētahi wā whai mana, tangata rānei i huri i tō āhua mahi.

Ki taku whakaaro, i ngā wā katoa e tauwhiti ana ahau ki tētahi atu tangata i roto i tā mātou umanga, he iti noa iho te rerekētanga o taku mahi. Ko te tikanga o te mahi i roto i tētahi umanga iti ake, kei te tauwhiti tonu koe ki ngā tāngata rerekē i roto i te umanga - he rerekē ngā pūkenga, he rerekē ngā wheako me ngā āhuatanga whakaaro rerekē.

Tangohia taku wheako ki te mahi tahi me Ryan, tētahi o ā mātou Auaha. Kua whai wāhi ahau ki te mahi tahi me ia i runga i ētahi kōrero poto inā noa nei, ā, kei te mīharo tonu ahau ki tana huarahi pākiki ki ia kaupapa me ia kiritaki. Kaore a ia e whakaroa ki te pātai ki ngā kiritaki i ngā pātai uaua, ā, ko te mea, e pārekareka ana ia ki a rātou. I te nuinga o te wā ka whakawhanake tēnei huarahi ki a ia ki te whakawhanake i ngā mahi ehara i te mea i tonoa e te kiritaki, engari he mea e tutuki ai te hua e hiahiatia ana e te kiritaki i runga i te huarahi nui ake, angitu hoki. 

His approach to work has really influenced how I approach the briefs we receive from clients. Ehara i te arotahi ki te tukunga kua whakaritea e tā mātou kiritaki, ka arotahi ahau ināianei ki te whāinga matua o te kiritaki me te take i haere mai ai rātou ki a mātou. Kua werohia hoki ahau kia whakawhirinaki ki te tukanga (cliché, e mōhio ana ahau), ina puta mai tētahi Auaha me tētahi ariā ehara i te mea ko tāku, ko te kiritaki rānei, tērā pea i tūmanakohia e au. 

Nō reira, ki taku whakaaro he uaua ki te pine ki te tangata kotahi, ki tētahi wā rānei kua huri i taku mahi, nā te mea i ia rā ka whai hua ahau i te ako mai i te hunga e karapoti ana i a au.

Ki tōu whakaaro he pēhea te eke o tētahi kaupapa ki tōna tino kaha?

He tautohetohe pea tēnei, engari i ētahi wā e whakaaro ana ahau ko ngā kaupapa tino pai e puta mai ana i te maka i ngā ture katoa ki waho o te matapihi me te whakawhirinaki ki tētahi ariā heahea, auaha. 

Take Te Anau Time, for example - we definitely didn't follow our normal process, as we had to be fast-moving and reactive to the environment around us. Heoi anō, nā tērā mātau i ārahi ki tētahi o ngā mahi tino pānga, angitu hoki i noho ai ahau, i tēnei wā. 

Mēnā he rite tonu te mīharo o tētahi ariā me te whakamataku, ko te tikanga ka taea te noho hei mea whakamīharo.

Me pēhea hoki tērā taha o te moni? He aha te mahi a te kiritaki kia taea ai e tētahi kaupapa te eke ki tōna tino kaha?

Ki taku whakaaro ahakoa kei te haere koe i te pukapuka, kei te whakatūpato rānei koe ki te hau, he ruarua tonu ngā mea ka taea e te kiritaki te mahi hei āwhina ki te whakaū i te angitu: 

He tino āwhina te whai wāhi whakapā matua i te taha kiritaki ki te whakarite i ngā mea me te whakaraupapa i te whakawhitiwhitinga kia kore ai e papā te urupare. E whakaaro ana hoki ahau ina tirohia mātau e ngā kiritaki hei hoa, ka taea e mātou te whakarato uara nui ake me te whakatutuki i ngā hua pai ake. He pai ake ki a au ina homai e ngā kiritaki tā rātou pūtea mākete ā-tau kia taea ai e mātou te whakamahere me te mahi whānui me pēhea te whakapau tino pai kia tutuki ai ō rātou hua e hiahiatia ana. Ki taku whakaaro he mea nui kia mahi tahi ngā kiritaki me mātou ki te hanga i te pātahitanga kia whai whakawhirinaki me te pūataata i ngā pito e rua, nā te mea ka taea e mātou te kōrerorero pono, ā, ka ngāwari ake te whakatau i ngā whakataunga uaua.

Ki tōu whakaaro me pēhea tō hanga i taua pātahitanga ki te kiritaki?

Ki taku whakaaro he mea nui kia haere mai i tētahi wāhi aroha me te pākiki. 

Ko te tikanga o te aroha ko te whakauru i a koe ki roto i ngā hū o te kiritaki kia tino mārama me te pāhono ki tō rātou tirohanga me ngā wero pakihi ahurei. 

Ko te tikanga o te pākiki, ki a au, ko te pātai whakaaro ki te kohikohi mōhiohio mō ngā kōrero poto, ngā hiahia, ngā herenga, me ngā manakohanga a te kiritaki. I ētahi wā ka kitea hoki e au ko ngā mahi ngātahi tino pai ko ngā mea e ōrite ana te hiahia o aku kiritaki ki tā mātou tikanga. He whakapono mātou ki tā mātou tukanga, nā reira e whakaaro ana ahau i ētahi wā he ngāwari noa iho ki a mātou te wareware kāore pea ngā kiritaki i te mōhio ki taua tukanga. He rawe ki a au ina pātai mai rātou ki a au kia tino ngana ki te hanga i tō rātou ake māramatanga — he tino āwhina ki te hanga i te whakawhirinaki i waenganui i a mātou.

He aha tētahi tohutohu ka hoatu e koe ki tētahi Kaiwhakahaere Kaupapa rangatahi?

Kaua e whakahāwea i te hiranga o te ako i ngā mea taketake me te mahi pai. Tērā pea he hōhā, he iti noa iho, engari ki te ako koe ki te mahi i ngā mea taketake kia tino pai, kia rite tonu hoki, ka whakatū i a koe kia angitu i te wā roa.

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